Interoception · gut feeling · heartbeat count

A forty-second count outlasted the chart.

JM Thomas · 17 August 2026

A gut feeling is a body count the thinking mind has not named yet.

Dark lime drawing of an empty trading desk, a forty-second timer, a chest mark, and a banned wrist. No face.
Empty desk with a forty-second timer and a banned wrist. No face.

I kept asking the universe for a sign and never sat still long enough to feel the beat.

A London floor and a banned wrist

Hands off the pulse point.

Kandasamy and the Cambridge group printed the floor in Scientific Reports in 2016 as article 32986, DOI 10.1038/srep32986, after they sat eighteen male high-frequency traders at a mid-sized hedge fund in the City of London during the tail of the European sovereign debt crisis and asked each man to count the beats he could feel without a finger on his chest or any pulse point.

They ran the count six times on clocks that stepped from 25 seconds up to 50 seconds, compared each guess with a pulse oximeter the trader could not see, and scored accuracy as one minus the absolute miss over the mean of the actual and the guess, then multiplied by 100.

A second sit asked if ten tones sat on the beat or 300 ms late, and that score did not move the desk while the count did.

Forty-eight age-matched men who did not trade sat the same count at Sussex. Traders scored 78.2. Controls scored 66.9. The group test sat at p = 0.011 on N = 66.

The sample was all men on high-frequency futures, seconds or minutes in a position, a few hours at the most. Information was equal. Capital was equal. Pay was a share of the P&L.

The count predicted the desk

The chest score tracked the year of profit.

One man ran the desk and had no personal P&L. One P&L sat more than five standard deviations above the rest, so they dropped him from the raw-money test. On the remaining sixteen, heartbeat count predicted daily P&L, coefficient 2.61, R2 = 0.27, p = 0.007.

They put the outlier back in a rank order. The count still predicted who sat higher, coefficient 17.84, R2 = 0.22, p = 0.01, N = 17.

Dark lime split. Left a confidence slider high and a profit bar flat. Right a chest-count score of 78.2 and years at the desk rising. No face.
Left: sure feeling high, profit flat. Right: chest count 78.2, years up.

Years rose as the low scores left

The same count predicted years at the desk.

Heartbeat count predicted years of survival, coefficient 21.64, R2 = 0.344, p = 0.001, N = 18. Juniors in year one through four sat at 68.7, close to the control mean of 66.9, and that gap was noise at p = 0.852 on N = 53.

Seniors past year eight sat at 85.3. That gap was real, p = 0.02 against controls on N = 56. Their spread shrank from 16.0 down to 8.6, and the F test on that shrink sat at p = 0.018.

The firm did not hire on a heartbeat test, and the market still appeared to keep the people who could feel the beat even though a later gym habit could raise both the count and the P&L, which is why the file cannot prove the count caused the money.

They still saw the count predict the desk after they held heart rate in the same model as BMI.

The sure feeling sat still

How sure you felt did not keep the job.

After each clock the traders marked how sure they felt on a line from total guess to full perception, and that sure feeling failed the count test at coefficient 0.17, p = 0.51, N = 17. It also failed the P&L test at coefficient -0.01, p = 0.97. Years sat just as dead, coefficient -0.16, p = 0.54.

Sixteen medical students inside the control pool scored 65.9 against the traders' 78.2, so they knew the heart on paper and still lost the count at p = 0.056 on N = 34, which is the same split Garfinkel had already printed in Biological Psychology in 2015 on N = 80.

The London floor ran that split in public money.

The knowing you can brag about sat still. The quiet count moved the year.

The sign sat under the shirt

I wanted a download from outside the body.

The measured sit is a count from inside it. The aisle sells inner knowing as a voice that arrives with a job offer. The file measured a beat you can miss if you cheat with a finger.

I looped trust your gut, then put a thumb on the pulse and called the cheat a knowing. The test already banned that move.

You can want a sign and still sit the forty seconds.

Leave the wrist. Run the count.

Sit with no finger on the neck and no watch app on the pulse. Start a clock between 25 and 50 seconds. Count what you feel under the shirt. Then check with a pulse oximeter or a partner who can see a number you cannot.

Write the guess and the actual on a dated scrap.

This page is about a chest count on a trading floor. If you want more chairs, the Library has them.

Questions the wrist still raises

Does a finger on the neck count?

The instruction banned the chest and every pulse point. A finger turns the test into a pulse you already trust.

Why only men?

The floor they sat was eighteen men. The control pool was forty-eight men. The file does not print a woman n.

Did the count cause the profit?

Unknown, because this was field work. The count predicted the desk. Causation stays open.

What if I cannot feel a single beat?

Write a zero. That is a score. Juniors started near the control mean. The floor appeared to keep the people who got better at the count.

Is this a medical page?

A heartbeat count on a trading floor. Literature. Chest pain that stays the night belongs with a clinician.

Numbers the floor printed

Kandasamy N., Garfinkel S.N., Page L., Hardy B., Critchley H.D., Gurnell M., Coates J.M. "Interoceptive Ability Predicts Survival on a London Trading Floor." Scientific Reports 2016;6:32986. DOI 10.1038/srep32986. PMID 27641692 · PMC 5027524 · Received 5 April 2016 · Accepted 15 August 2016 · Published 19 September 2016 · Cambridge / Sussex / QUT / Judge · n=18 male high-frequency traders, mid-sized London hedge fund, European sovereign-debt tail · Controls n=48 age-matched non-trader males (mostly students and postgraduates), Sussex · Heartbeat counting, Schandry, six clocks 25-50 s, no chest or pulse point, pulse oximetry · Score = (1 - |actual-estimated| / mean(actual, estimated)) x 100 · Four traders dropped one Tukey outlier trial · Synchronization task, 15 trials, 10 tones, 0 or 300 ms delay, bimodal, no link to P&L · Traders 78.2 vs controls 66.9, p=0.011, N=66 · Raw P&L: manager omitted, one P&L >5 SD omitted, coeff=2.61, R2=0.27, p=0.007, N=16 · Rank P&L coeff=17.84, R2=0.22, p=0.01, N=17 · Years coeff=21.64, R2=0.344, p=0.001, N=18 · Junior 1-4 yrs n=5 mean 68.7 SD 16.0 vs controls p=0.852 N=53 · Mid 5-8 yrs n=5 mean 76.3 SD 9.9 · Senior >8 yrs n=8 mean 85.3 SD 8.6 vs controls p=0.02 N=56, SD F-test p=0.018 N=56 · Confidence vs accuracy coeff=0.17 p=0.51 N=17 · vs P&L coeff=-0.01 p=0.97 · vs years coeff=-0.16 p=0.54 · Medical students n=16 scored 65.9 vs traders 78.2, p=0.056 N=34 · Physiology subset n=14, HBD+RMSSD predicted P&L R2=45.4% p=0.008 and years R2=60.5% p=0.001 · Field study, causation open. Garfinkel S.N., Seth A.K., Barrett A.B., Suzuki K., Critchley H.D. "Knowing your own heart: distinguishing interoceptive accuracy from interoceptive awareness." Biological Psychology 2015;104:65-74. DOI 10.1016/j.biopsycho.2014.11.004. N=80. doi.org/10.1038/srep32986 · pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27641692 · pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5027524 · Garfinkel 2015 DOI